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Posted by Druzzil (518 days ago)
is it only me that find smokeing is huge turn off
I really dislike when a girl smokes
all cloths smell really bad no matter how nice her perfume smells you only smell the smoke.
kissing a girl right after she had a smoke is like eating from a ashtray, so groose and discusting...bleeh..
girls if you want to attract more men, you dont need bigger boobs, just throw away that silly stinky thing between your fingers.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Qart (517 days ago)
LOL...
(I am based in Beijing)
Posted by LMOPQ (517 days ago)
Smoking is not good. Smoking is bad to health.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Ladybird101 (517 days ago)
What if she just smokes socially?
I smoke when I go out for drinks with friends, but I wouldn't usually smoke at home or go out for a smoke at work....
What is constitued as the "disgusting" level of smoking?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by zelda (517 days ago)
As a smoker, i definitely feel more at ease when i am surrounded by other smokers, or by tolerant non-smokers. I wouldn't impose my smoking on those who don't like it, so please stop the witch hunt.
Let smokers be with smokers...instead of imposing a total ban.
What's wrong with a bar for smokers, staffed by people who themselves smoke? In a free society there should be room for both smokers and non-smokers. As long as people respect each other and are tolerant of differences, where is the problem?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by car_lover (517 days ago)
I dislike a girl that smokes too cos i don't. Bt it's a choice, some guys don't mind and also lots of guys smokes too and yeah, they stink like a skunk after they smoke!(based on those around me only).
Zelda, i think Druzzil is just talking abt his feelings out loud..and it's abt a guy n girl, not abt the Smoke Ban in HK...cheers! The way u typed it, makes me think you're pissed..haha...calm down.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by pinolino (517 days ago)
Agree with zelda! But most of non-smokers are not tolerant! We smokers are in general also more socialable and i.e. in a smoking area, it is allowed not to smoke....joke
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the_poor_man (517 days ago)
Zelda -- it sounds like you are supporting segregation!
Smoking is bad for your health, and being a smoker shows that you're not a conscientious person. The hatred you're expressing toward non-smokers who don't like to be around smokers is also showing you to lack compassion for others' feelings and concerns for their own health and comfort.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by zelda (517 days ago)
driving is far worse for our environment than my smoking a few fags a day. How come car drivers can freely pollute the air i breathe but i can't light up in a bar?
I prefer "segregation" to a total ban. Nothing wrong with a bar for smokers only. I don't mind eating in a restaurant where i cannot smoke, but drinking a beer without fags?
As to being conscientious, I am, that's why i prefer the company of smokers. Some people take risks in life, some don't. If you don't want to smoke, fine. But maybe you take other risks in life that i don't take. Who am i to tell you not to? As long as you don't jeopardise other people lives...
By smoking in a smokers friendly bar i am not posing any threat to your health. Why can't you just live and let live?
I come from a family of smokers, but thanks to a good diet and exercise my family members are all in good health, me included. Apparently there is a genetic predisposition to lung cancer, and many other cancers. Luckily my family hasn't got a history of cancer. Having said that, i don't think we should be complacent. Keeping fit and eating well is the best way to keep healthy. But at the end of the day we all must die of something.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the_poor_man (517 days ago)
Well, you've got a few years left where you'll have the right to smoke in a bar, restricting your socializing to smoke tolerant friends, I guess.
And it's not just health, it's comfort. When you go into your office in the morning after your morning "fag", your clothes and breath stink, even if it's imperceptible to you. Your colleagues might be uncomfortable with the smell, and they have the right to feel that way. You may not know it, but you are imposing your stink on them.
Even in public this happens. It is really very rude to take your stinky clothes and foul breath and sit down or stand next to someone on the MTR.
Personally, I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me. But the minute you sit down next to me on the MTR or stand there on a street corner blowing smoke while I have to wait for a traffic light, you're affecting me, and I have the right to object to your lack of consideration.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by zelda (517 days ago)
well, you don't sound very tolerant. The smell of my clothes might be offensive to you, but it poses no more threat to your health than the smell of your cologne poses to mine. Am i advocating a total ban on cologne simply because i don't like its smell? No
Have you ever thought that smell is actually a very subjective thing? Some people like perfumes that repel others. A bit like the smell of certain foods. I might like it, you might hate it.
Can't we just be a bit more tolerant of differences???
The level of intolerance shown by some non-smokers is very worrying. Now it's cigarette smell,
tomorrow it can be the smell of "blacks, homosexuals, jews, communists, the poor, the old..."
Intolerance breeds racism and persecution. As history as proved too many times.
Today you resent the smell of my clothes, tomorrow you might resent the smell of my cooking, you might gang up with other like-minded individuals and evict me from your residential block, and why not, from your neighborhood.
By the way, one of the arguments used against gypsies is that they smelled and were morally corrupt. They ended up in Auschwitz, thanks to do-gooders who wanted to protect their communities from these "ragged, lazy and immoral people".
30 years ago people could smoke on buses, in cinemas, hospitals, courts, schools etc. Though i am not advocating going back to that, it just shows that your reaction to cigarette smell is somewhat hysterical. As to the cancer rate of people who lived 30 years ago, they were lower than now, thanks to cleaner air and a healthier diet. Smokers have become the scapegoat, so that people don't have to think about more serious issues, such as air pollution. Ask anyone who lived in HK 30-50 years ago if the pollution was as bad, despite the ubiquitous presence of smokers.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Druzzil (517 days ago)
zelda, my point was not if smokeing shold be tolerated or not
just said many people dont like to kiss an ashtray.
since the fight are already started
I can give you 10 reason why not to smoke
can you give 10 reason why any person need to smoke?
you said takeing risks. if I want to climb mountains without ropes, yes fine I am takeing risk, if I fall I die..no one else will get hurt
if you smoke and I am near you I will get affected by your unhealtysmoke
I dont tie you around my waist when I going to climb and force you take same risks I do.
I realized long before it happened to my fathersmokeing was bad
you said smokeing not dangerus, how come my father died of lungcancer from smokeing?
have you seen a 100kg man waight less than 35kg without hair and must have things down his throut to breath and eat?? I have..it is 100% fact smokeing is dangerus and deadly.
if you dont care about your health, fine..but let me chose if I want to smell smoke or not
parfume is not dangerus, smoke are
you are totaly right, there is lots if other tings in our lives that are dangerus too
but has to start somewhere and cars get cleaner and cleaner every year and more and more alternativ in out on market
what would you say if a car parked at the seat next to you when you are esting on resturant?
you tell him to turn off engine and he does, but 5 mins later engine is on again
someing is fine for those who choose doing it, but respect people who dont want to smoke.
passive smokeing is same danger as a person who smokes.
being a smoker or non smoker is the same, you can do same things with or without a ciggarete in your hand.
so the argue smoker have more social things is bullsh*t, you can take a break and go out and chat with people without a cig too.
enought about this fight
lets talk about the real topic
are smokeing attracive or turn off
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by zelda (517 days ago)
Back to your question. Smokers are attractive to other smokers. We don't think of each other as walking ashtrays.
As to your points, i never said that smoking is not a health hazard, and fully respect the rights of non-smokers. I have no intention to smoke next to you. I am just asking for mutual respect. I would welcome bars for smokers staffed by people who smoke and freely choose to work there. And why not reserve a comfortable area where smoking workers can congregate instead of pushing them out in the street?
Why can't smokers have a reserved bench in the park? The argument that they pollute the air doesn't hold where parks are actually concrete areas surrounded by highways.
Why can't smokers have a corner outside the central library or the university campus? They are going to smoke somewhere, so why turn it into a confrontation?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by sandiexxxx (516 days ago)
Would someone also like to add a list of the bars in Soho, LKF, etc... that allow us evil smokers to continue our disgusting habit ? I dont feel like schlepping around looking for one.. thanks..
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by kristatu;ip (516 days ago)
Hi Druzzil,
to answer your question - SMOKING IS UNATTRACTIVE, A TURN OFF AND UNHEALTY FOR BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. PORTRAIT A POOR IMAGE TO CHILDREN.
:-)
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by bigbadanddangerous (516 days ago)
smoking has become socially unacceptable - simple as that... maybe one day alcohol may turn this way as well, although i very much doubt it :)
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by sylvialili (516 days ago)
Druzzil
I believe, by now, you have a pretty good idea that you are definitely not alone feeling the way you are. And I respect the fact that it's really a personal choice to inhale and exhale the carcinogenic substances. I am so super positive that, by now, the smokers are well informed on how detrimental smoking is to health, and the fact that second hand smoking does even far more harm to our health.
If you find smoking a turn-off, then you go looking for a girl who doesn't smoke, even occasionally or socially, in the first place, period. No ifs and buts. End of story.
"girls if you want to attract more men, you dont need bigger boobs, just throw away that silly stinky thing between your fingers."
Again, the smokers will attract those who find them attractive whether they have big boobs or not.
Simply set out your criteria and stick to them when you go looking for your girl. e.g. non-smoker, small boobs, short pixie hair, etc...whatever to your likings.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by pinolino (516 days ago)
Restaurants I frequently visited get deserted! They are now handing out 50% discount vouchers...Smokers are forced on the streets...what a poor night-life society here in HK.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Mr Cynical (516 days ago)
Strange i was out in HK on Friday night at a few top end places that are smoke free and they were packed, those in our group with the filthy habit stepped out to for their addiction, where they BELONG
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by ayumi (516 days ago)
You can still smoke inside Delaney's (Wanchai).
I went there last night. Packed with happy smokers and friendly non-smokers.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by ayumi (516 days ago)
BTW, I smoke and am attracted to both smokers and non-smokers. My BF doesn't smoke but is still attracted to me ;-)
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the_poor_man (515 days ago)
The numbers all say that restaurant business has improved since the ban came into effect. I can attest to that. There were many places my girlfriend and I would not go before, and now we finally have the chance.
For every smoker that chooses to stay home because they can't smoke in a restaurant, there are two non-smokers who are more likely to go out.
And have you seen children having dinner at restaurants now? I have. Didn't see many before.
All in all, the ban can only be a good thing. A good thing for overall health of HK society. A good thing for health care costs.
The pressure being put on smokers to adapt to this new paradigm is also definitely a good thing for their future.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Daddy Long Legs (515 days ago)
The poor man
You seem to have a good idea of what is good for everyones future; why don't you give us a bit more of your insight.
Should I also give up drinking? What about sex?
travelling in cars without seatbelts? How about going on a rollercoaster? I would love to know what else is good for my future.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by aussieinhk (515 days ago)
1. Smoking is a turn-off for most non-smokers
2. Reformed smokers often are the most vitriolic when it comes to professing their dislike for smokers
3. I too saw an article that stated restaurant business was up since the ban came into effect, as people would leave after eating, rather than sitting around smoking, hence the wait staff clould clear the tables quicker and get the next group in.
4. I thought that at the moment, any "bar" was exempt from the ban until a later late?
5. Finally, whilst I have never smoked, I support all smokers rights to do so, as long as tobacco is a legal product. If a bar is a smokey hell hole, I go to another one that is not. Simple.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by marieantoinette (515 days ago)
poor man, while it may be progress to you having children in restaurants, I don't expect to see them in bars in Lan Kwai Fong. No-one disputes that it's horrible having smoke blown in your face during a meal, but it's rather condescending having heavy drinkers (no, not anyone in particular!) lambasting smokers over health and sociability issues in downtown bars! Yes, I understand the dangers of secondhand smoke but if you frequent some dodgy watering holes in the depths of Wanchai, you'll discover the dangers of secondhand drink.....the obnoxious expat looking for a fight with whoever, shouting abuse, the legless housewife on a girls night out, alternating between crying and throwing up on her mate. Ask yourselves, how long before drinking starts being abolished? What if Hong Kong went the way of the States and had no alfresco drinking? I have no problem with teetotallers being pro the smoking ban, but the drinkers are pots calling kettles.....
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Mr Cynical (515 days ago)
I do not agree with allowing smoking in any public places.
Tobacco kills and as far as bars go its not only the patrons but more importantly the workers who are exposed to this poison all night long.
Its about time that smokers were prevented from imposing their filthy habit on everyone else. No I should not be forced to move if a bar is a stink hole, the smokers can move out onto the street where they do no harm but to themselves
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the_poor_man (515 days ago)
Some clarification:
Any and all bars (whether in LKF or Soho or Tai Po) are exempt from the non-smoking regulation as long as food does not constitute a certain percentage of their business. All they need do is apply for the exemption. Seems fair to me.
Some people here seem to be claiming that there are not enough smoking bars in LKF!!!! Believe me there are plenty, and they are not any more crowded than the non-smoking places.
I haven't been, but my guess is that a place like Stormies cannot get the exemption because of their food percentage. Boo-hoo. Go next door.
It's not like there aren't enough places to choose from.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Claire (515 days ago)
The disgusting smell aside, I really can’t quite see why some people find smokers attractive. I mean who wants to be with someone who has...
* Five times the heart-attack rate.
* Triple the risk of skin cancer.
* Increased severity of existing breast cancer.
* Higher rates of leukaemia.
* Increased risk of cancers of the throat, mouth, oesophagus, kidney, colon, rectal, stomach, pancreas and bladder.
* Two and a half times the risk for stroke.
* Higher risk for lung diseases, such as pneumonia, flu, bronchitis, and emphysema.
* Greater risk for infertility in women.
* Greater risk for ectopic pregnancy and miscarriage.
* Greater risk for stillbirth, prematurity, and low-birth weight.
* Higher degree of impotence in men.
* Reduced sperm density and motility.
* Higher risk for osteoporosis.
* Significantly greater risk for hip fracture.
* Higher risk of developing cataracts than non-smokers.
* Twice the risk for the severe age-related eye disorder, macular degeneration.
* Higher risk for gum disease.
* Five times more likely to develop more and deeper wrinkles.
* Higher risk for baldness and premature grey hair.
* Twice as likely to develop incontinence.
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by Daddy Long Legs (515 days ago)
Yes outside is where we definately should be. I have no qualms about that. What I do have a problem with is being prevented from doing something at the risk of harming myself!!!
Who can justifiably have the right to dictate to me what is good or not good for me?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the goddess kali (515 days ago)
I'm an intolerant nonsmoker - but i think if people want to smoke and poison themselves it's really upto them.
I just mind when smokers blow smoke in my face.
So saying, I must admit to being unlucky as I often end up having good friends who are smokers.
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by Ladybird101 (515 days ago)
First of all, Daddy Long, I have to say you are right on the money with that comment - no one has the right to dictate what is or is not good for you. It's an entirely personal choice, which I think is the point we are missing in this thread!
Mr Cynical, how can you even begin to think that you have the right to say that smokers BELONG outside??? It sounds as though your regard for a smoker is much the same as what one might have for a dog!!! How can you be so horrible!!??!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by naima (515 days ago)
Reasons Why we smoke:
1. Its a good stress reliever and it prevents women to nag coz we already blew off our steams.
2. Yeah its bad for the health but i might get hit by a truck anyways so...
3.cant enjoy my coffee without it, its like pizza without cheese.
And for the problems that we've caused...
1. I can always fix the stink with a few drops of Salvatore F and mints.
2. I dont smoke when im with kids, etc; and be considerate enough not to smoke in a very public place.
I think i need to go out for awhile....
(I am based in Guangzhou)
Posted by car_lover (515 days ago)
I think this thread is slowly moving away from the main topic.
It don't matter where smokers shld smoke, either indoor or outdoor still i dislike it. Got friends who smoke bt i am not against it, just dun blow it on my face. I got a choice and am sure everyone has too...so if there is a smoker, just go somewhere else. I rather they smoke indoors then outdoor actually, at least i get to choose non-smoking section in a restaurant, outdoor smokers tend to puff off their smoke as tho the whole street belongs to them, no offence to smokers..still...blame it on the govt! haha..
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Mr Cynical (515 days ago)
Dogs dont harm my health so with all due respect and no sarcasm, I'd rather share a room with dogs than smokers any day.
Not sure how to explain this any clearer to those who would be selfish and insist they be allowed to continue to pollute others, maybe this will work, how do you like it when you are walking down the street and a bus or large delivery truck pulls up spewing black noxious smoke into your face?
I feel the same when I have to breath smoke in a bar or restaurant
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by zelda (514 days ago)
OK, the jury is out.
Smoking is bad for our health (we know that, no need to remind us) but so are most of life pleasures :-)
Smokers are not liked by non-smokers. I can live with that. But we should have the right to congregate with other fellow smokers in smokers-friendly establishments, share offices with smokers, instead of becoming the scapegoat for all the health problems of this city.
As to those who say we place a burden on the healthcare system, well, so do overweight people, those who have an unhealthy diet, those who drink excessively, take prescription or street drugs, those who don't exercise, those who were born with congenital or hereditary diseases etc. For a smoker with health problems there are many more who have never been hospitalised, like my mum and dad. My grandparents, all smokers died of conditions that have nothing to do with smoking.
In places were smoking has been banned, bars and restaurants put tables outside and cater for smokers in a civilised manner. Unfortunately that's quite difficult in a dense place such as HK. The result is that smokers have to smoke in the streets, and that doesn't please anybody.
What i object to is forcing bars and restaurants to repress smokers instead of accomodating them in dedicated areas. I accept that if a joint is too small it should go smoke free. But why didn't they let market forces determine the ratio between smoke-free and smoking bars? If a bar owner realises that the majority of its patrons are smokers, he would apply for a licence. Now the current system just grant them a short period to get used to what will be a total ban. This is called Prohibitionism and brings back memories of Al Capone. Do we really want to force smokers underground? Has anybody thought about the consequences of criminalizing a section of the population? Sooner or later I will have to go to a speak-easy run by the Triads to enjoy a drink and a smoke. Who knows, my criminal side might get a boost!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by sandiexxxx (514 days ago)
well said Zelda.. The taxes alone on cigarettes covers healthcare, as smokers tend to pass on a little faster due to the noxious habit. Be ready for another tax increase on cigarettes, and wines are due for one, regardless of what Mr. Zeman thinks. Last time I looked, cigarettes were a legal product sold to those over 18. Sadly when the warmer weather arrives, even smoking outside will become an issue. LKF/SOHO, one huge ashtray... Anyone feel like opening a 'smoke-easy'...
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by hongkonglady (513 days ago)
Hmm If you don't want to kiss an ashtray then don't. Why whine about it? You have no problems holding back from kissing a dog on the mouth..(we hope) why is an ashtray any different? Whats the dilemma? (and yes..ashtray means a woman who smokes)
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
I'm sorry but I wouldnt ever kiss a dog on the mouth. Did you ever watch Dr.Know??? Yuck! Dogs have a shedload more bacteria in their mouths than we do. I wouldnt even touch food after my dog has licked my hand! Thats plain crazy! You know where that tongue has been?
A smoker, genuinely smells and tastes bad compared to a non-smoker.
I smoke, have desperately been trying to quit. My partner is in the same boat. I have always pitied the person I dated who didnt smoke (or wasnt in the same boat as me, y'know? the perpetual quitter!). Lets face it, even I know when I step in an elevator after work...I know I reek of smokes...because the odd times when I have been an "ex-smoker" there have been other people in the office elevator whom I have thought "Wow, she's pretty, but she stinks of ciggarettes" or "Wow, what a well put together guy but lord does he stink like an ashtray!"
Druzzil was just making a comment about how smoking is, in his book, a "deal breaker". I have a friend who simply wont consider a person as dateworthy, regardless of how compatible they are in every other way, if they smoke. "They can come back to me when they are ex-smokers" says he.
I thought, wow, harsh...but hey, good on you for having that clear in your head.
No one likes a nag. Nag, nag, nag, smoking is grosse, it'll kill ya, nag, nag, nag...but hey, never ever put smoking and dog breath in the same boat. Dog kisses are way more dangerous, yuck.
""A dog's mouth contains a lot of bacteria," notes Dr. Gary "Ask the Vet" Clemons. "Remember, a dog's tongue is not only his wash cloth but also his toilet paper."
Not only accurate, but delicately put!"
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by dont know why (513 days ago)
I don't know whether smoking is a turn off or a turn on. It is a personal choice and as any choices we make in life, to each his own. But here is the thing. I lost my father and my mother in law to lung cancer and my father in law to emphesima. Needless to say, all three of them were life long smokers. I watched all three of them go from healthy productive human beings to a shell of what they used to be. My mother in law was the worst as her cancer spread to the bone then to her brain, taking away her health, her dignity, and finally her life in a horrific and painful death which she did not deserve in the least. Now only parent my husband and I have left between the two of us is my mother who happens to be the only non-smoker out of the four parents. I dont know what the percentage of lung cancer or lung related diseases happens to smokers. But after what I have watched and went through with my parents, I woundt take a chance like that with my own life. I woudnt do that to myself or my family.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Innocence (513 days ago)
Girls how would you feel if you really like a guy and he would have nothing to do with you becasue you smoke? what would you do?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
Indeed, its painful. I have seen my favorite uncle die from lung cancer. I have had another uncle have to undergo triple bypass surgeries caused by problems related to smoking. Sheesh...no one ever picks up a ciggarette and says "Yes, I want to be an addict".
Oh never mind *slinking away, shoulders slumped*
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by the goddess kali (513 days ago)
maybe give up smoking maybe not. i'm not a smoker - but i think it's the same with everything.
Most people have habits that the chosen one doesn't quite like...
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by ChrisHB (513 days ago)
Is smoking a huge turn off?
I'm an ex-smoker. quit a habit of 40+ a day to zero a couple of years ago.
It is said that ex-smokers are the worst at banning smoking and talking s**t about smokers, but I don't know... I must say that I still think a woman looks very sexy with a cigarette in her hand, don't know why.
Yes, after my sense of taste returned I must admit that it tastes rather stale to kiss someone just after she had a smoke, but the taste nomally subsides quite quickly.
I personally can't smoke anymore because I end up having 40 or more a day with the obvious side effects this has on your body, but I really don't mind people who are able to maintain a moderate habit. If I could keep it at 5 a day, I would never quit and I would certainly not mind a woman who could display such power of mind and control.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Daddy Long Legs (513 days ago)
I'm not sure if this fits in here, but how or why did people start smoking in the first place? I really dont want my kids to grow up being smokers.
And me just telling them its bad for them is hardly a deterrent.
Would taking them to see cancer patients work? At what age would that be suitable, if at all?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
I personally started smoking when I was 11 years old! My folks never smoked but coz my dad used to work at a job where they were given free booze and smokes, well, my mum would have all these cylinders (the fancy 50 pack) of John Player Special lying round the house so that folks could smoke during parties...so the curiosity was there...it seemed like a "grown up" thing.
I grabbed one smoke...nipped around to where my folks were building a guest bedroom...and lit up. Coughed like a demon and then thought "yuck".
That didnt stop me though...I kept trying over the years, coz I wanted to be able to inhale just once...
Then bang, one day I did...I didnt smoke all the time, never bought my own smokes, but lord did I bum a lot of smokes.
By university I had a full blown pack a day habit. With years on and years off, I still came back to the 3 - 30 a day habit.
I hope, Daddy Long Legs, if your kids are young, that by the time they are all grown up there is some sort of chip they can implant in their arm or something that makes em puke everytime they smell ciggarettes.
I can hope...
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by elegantlywasted (513 days ago)
Heres what I dont understand.
Why, after trying a cigarette for the first time and not liking it, would you want to try again just to be able to "inhale it once." What's the point? Iknow a lot of people who hated their first cigarette yet tried again .. to achieve what?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
Its called the little nicotine demon. Once its in ya it kinda craves company!
Its a damn parasite that kinda hurdles past the intestine of better judgement.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by elegantlywasted (513 days ago)
Nicotine addiction after trying ONE cigarette?
Doesn't sound likely.
Could it be something else like peer pressure?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
Unlikely, at home, at 11, my only friend was my kid brother and he was 7! So er, nope. lol
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by balzac (513 days ago)
It stinks, sorry. If only you knew what your non-smoking colleagues talk about behind your back after you've just come back from your ciggie break. Here is a sample of what I've heard:
Gosh she stinks when she speaks
What's the point of all that makeup and fine dress when she stinks and smells stale
A high school friend of mine has dark gums and purplish lips from all the smoking.Not sexy at all.
I am not against smokers and I appear fairly tolerant of smoking- a lot of my friends are smokers and they are mindful not to torture me in an enclosed area.
So in response to someone else's comment-why does a woman look 'sexy' holding a ciggie? Well, a ciggie is cylindrical, long....and is supposed to go into the mouth
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (513 days ago)
Ah, the ol' freudian thing of not being breastfed. Yes, in my defense, I was born 7 weeks premature, so it was the incubator and feeding tubes for me. Just grateful I didnt become a smack addict.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by ChrisHB (513 days ago)
I was born 8 weeks premature and had to go through the incubator thingy too. haha - we are just lucky to be alive. Still, it's possible to quit if we want to, I did a couple of years ago.
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Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (512 days ago)
Heheh, Indeed, I suppose in my case I am working my way up to it. I have a long holiday coming up and I will quit before that.
*cough*
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Posted by ChrisHB (512 days ago)
to tell you the truth I couldn't walk straight for three days and couldn't focus on anything for weeks after I quit. was well worth it in the end though. Lovely to have one less addiction to worry about.
I still think the damn things are sexy looking and smell nice though.
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Posted by Jungle_duet (512 days ago)
I smoke cigar, is that acceptable as a woman?
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Posted by Justin Credible (Part Deux) (512 days ago)
Probably not. The thought of a woman chomping on a stanky cigar is even more cringeworthy than yellowed fingertips clinging painfully to a ciggarette.
Cigars have an even stronger stench...its all equally bad, really.
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Posted by ChrisHB (512 days ago)
never really liked the smell of a cigar. No, let me qualify that, I always found the smell of cigars to be quite repulsive. So that's a no from me Jungle..
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